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October 31, 2013


Got thinking (now that's a rarity) about all the metal detecting videos and photos I see online, and in almost every instance I found yourself concentrating on the detector they were using, rather than what it was they found. I thought the videos were a nice change of pace when they first came on the scene, but now they seem to be a dime a dozen, and I just can’t get all that excited any more (please...all you tekkies with cameras, don't beat me up. I am a senior citizen, and as such, expect your sympathy).

Anyway now that I have pissed off a few budding Cecil B. DeMilles, what detector do YOU use and why? What is it that convinced you it was the one you had to have, the one you couldn’t pass up, the best on the market, hands down? Was it a friend’s recommendation, a review, a video, an advertisement or was it the price? Was it because you had seen it’s capabilities first hand or because everybody on the internet was singing it’s praises? Was it because you liked the looks of it or was it because you felt “you just had to keep up with crowd?”

My gut feeling is that it's probably a little bit of all of the above. You see I've been there, done that and plead guilty! Metal detecting, like any other pastime or sport can become an obsession, and we unwittingly become victims of hearsay, word of mouth, advertising and unfortunately a lot of over-the-top hype. It’s just part of the experience and we learn as a result of it. The manufacturers know this of course, and spend a lot of money trying to persuade you that their product is the best, bar none, no matter the price. When I was working in the industry the buzz words were "new & improved" and "added depth". Today it seems to be "Pro", meaning if you use anything less, you just might be an amateur.

I also have a feeling that many of our decisions are based on a “it's newer and has to be better and go deeper” philosophy. I can remember each and every new detector I bought, and I was sure that each was a major improvement over the last. After all it cost more, it looked more complicated and ultimately it did find coins in those areas I thought were hunted out. How many times have you heard “it was like a totally new site” and “these were coins my old detector couldn’t sniff out”?

So, now think about it? Was it really your detector, or was it your positive outlook, your excitement about using that brand new detector or because you slowed down and had to pay more attention to your effort? I know there's no cut and dried answer, but as I look back I think in my case it was all those things.

Now I know all this is theory and surely pissing off a few manufacturers, not to mention a few tekkies who just spent a zillion dollars on a new machine, but I am not throwing it out there to discourage anyone. If it takes spending money to increase your finds, your enjoyment, then by all means do it. If you have extra cash on hand, get that top-of-the line model, and then send a few bucks to ole Stouty here in Texas. My beer & wine money is running low.

Someone will surely ask what am I using and why? Well, I am using a White's MXT Pro and an old 6000di Series 2. I use the MXT Pro because it's a good turn on and go machine, offers good depth, and I love knobs and switches (and boobs). I use the old 6000di because it has sentimental value. It was a machine that found a helluva lot of coins for me back in the 80's, and it's still doing it although at a lesser pace thanks to my inability to get out as much as I'd like. I am a White's fan. Always have been. I appreciate their products and their customer service.

I would love to hear about what detector you use and why, and your thoughts on this topic. Hope you will take the time to respond on the blog. Lastly, remember that I am getting along in years and tend to reflect on all kinds of stupd things. Won't bother me a bit if you file this one under "bullshit"...



Here on Stout Standards I often say a lot of offbeat things, a lot of controversial things, and sometimes use words that offend. I also speak my mind and leave nothing to chance, so to those of you who take the time to respond and pass on my blog posts to others, thank you. To those of you I piss off or embarrass, have a good day.


October 29, 2013


Tomorrow, my friend, Alan Holcombe, Corporate Manager at White's Electronics, turns 69, and I want to be the first to wish him a Happy Birthday. Alan has been a close friend of mine now for 30 years, and while many of you may not be aware of it, a great friend to all of you too. I was going to try and list all the many things this man has done for the pastime over the years, but it would be impossible and would take way too much time.

There are so many instances of where he waded in to help someone, some group, some effort, and in almost every instance, without any fanfare or publicity. If I ever needed help or knew of someone else needing it, I knew I could count on Alan to be there. He is not only liked and appreciated by those in the pastime, but by his competitors as well.

Alan I typically wish someone a happy birthday by saying "have one for me" but I know you don't drink, so how about simply "have a great day and thank you for being such a good friend" (and while I don't fit into that maroon jacket any longer I will always cherish it).



As of yesterday all of the prizes given away in the recent Ken ManIntyre effort were sent out or are in the process of being sent out. If you were one of the lucky winners and do not receive your prize within a reasonable time, be sure to let me or the folks at American Digger Magazine know. Thank you all again for contributing to a good cause...



I have been asked numerous times why I have both a blog and a website when it appears that both offer up the same information, or as many call it bullshit. Well, let me try to explain...

I have always been intrigued and fascinated by eye-catching websites (and no Howland they were not porn sites). So back in 2009 I decided to take a course in basic website construction at a local community college. That took up two nights of my week for about four months, and I thought what the hell, let me see what I can create. I was stumped initially about what sort of site I might work up but then realized it was only natural to bore the crap out of people with my metal detecting stories. It also made sense in that I had a lot of photos that I wanted to preserve (hundreds of which are 35mm slides which I am still searching for).

In any case I started the website "Stout Standards". How did I come with the name? Well it took a lot of thought. I toyed with "Stout Stuff", "Stout's Story", "Stout Shit" and yes even thought about giving Ron Guinazzo a run for his money with "Dallas Dick", but after Googling that I quickly gave that up. Anyway, Stout Standards begin in March of 2010, and was quickly recognized and widely acclaimed as terrible, crude and half-ass backward HTML code. I remember going onto a few website forums asking for assistance and being told I needed to forget everything I learned and start over...

No matter I plodded along, learning something new here and there, and I am proud to say that today my website is still crude and half-ass backward, but hey it's mine! My handiwork, my effort and it's been a fun experience. Later I found out that the layout irritated Warsaw Wally and that sealed the deal. I had to keep it going.

Then in early 2012 John Winter, my twin brother in the UK, suggested I look at Wordpress, a blog site that was not only free, but easy to use. There were numerous theme layouts to choose from, and all allowed for back and forth dialogue, something that was missing on my website. I was reluctant at first but eventually gave it a try and voila...I now have Stout Standards, the BLOG.

After almost two and a half years of doing the website I could not bring myself to take it down. There were photos, articles, guestbook comments, and a lot of entries that I didn't want to lose. It was also my baby, no matter how bad it looked or read. I had and still have fun working with it, and who knows, maybe a few years down the road they will refer to it in an adult ed class as "how not to do a website"....

So, der ya go!



Not a lot to offer up this time around...difficult couple of days. Do want to say that book prizes from last week's drawing will hopefully be mailed out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay...



Please be sure to check out John Howland's latest contribution to the Malamute Saloon by clicking HERE. As usual he's poking fun at his favorite fan in Warsaw.




October 25, 2013


Today is the first day of the 2013 FMDAC Fall Convention, and this year it's being hosted by the Smoky Mountain Artifacts Researh & Treasure Society in Knoxville, Tennessee. The event runs through Sunday, and of major importance is an effort to bring together the manufacturers & the various groups representing the pastime (see my earlier post here).

Will they all show up, and better yet if they do, what will be the end result? I have often said that some sort of coming together needs to happen. Otherwise we are still muddling along, status quo, one group doing this, the other doing something else. All three organizations claim to be the biggest, the best and the most accomplished, but ultimately the answer to any unification will come down to who can leave their ego's at the door.

The other problem of course is will relic hunters, coinshooters, beach hunters & prospectors care enough about each other to pitch in when there's a problem that does not affect them? A relic hunter recently stated that his club was not interested in joining any of the national groups because they hunt on private property and do not face the same problems as those hunting in parks. If this attitude prevails than any attempt at joining forces is really moot. Only in numbers can we make a difference.

Lastly, let me ask a favor of all three groups.... Give me a reason to visit your website. Update them please on a more regular basis, if only to say "hi". Add a photo/video gallery for members to brag a little, tell your members when and how you meet. If you are an officer, don't be just a name with a title. Tell a little about your background, what you are responsible for and post an email address where members can contact you if needed. Hell, tell a joke...anything please?

"In my opinion" it all comes down to marketing yourself and your organization.....so far you are doing a crappy job.



My good friend John Winter surprises me every now and then, venturing into salacious areas that border on the obscene. That happens when you get old and leacherous (Howland & I readily admit to being in that group). Be sure to check out his recent post titled A Tsunami Filth, and if you aren't a subscriber to John's great blog you are missing out big time.



Just recently I suggested that clubs save up their trash and at the end of the year take it to city hall so they know that we do more than dig holes. Well, apparently there are already clubs doing that and publicizing it. John Dudley, a member of the West Michigan Detector Club, recently shared the following photo on Facebook...

West Michigan Detector Club adding
their trash to recycling center

The West Michigan club does not have a website, but meets the third Thursday of each month at China Buffet, in South Haven, Michigan (6:30 pm). John Dudley incidentally is a magician, and hope you will check out his website here. It a fun one and also provides a method of contact should you need more info on the club.

Great job guys!



Tragic Tale Behind 18th Century Ring

Solid Gold Bracelet Goes on Display

Rude Roman Knife from Lincolnshire

Roman Coins Confiscated

Ancient Child's Lead Coffin Could Make History



Saw this on Facebook and instantly thought of my very good friend in Warsaw....


October 23, 2013


You've heard me mention Bob Sickler here quite a few times. He is one helluva detectorist, one helluva writer and one helluva artist. His book "The Detectorist" is without a doubt one of the best ever written about the pastime, and if you don't have it, get it now before it's hard to find.Those that have it won't part with theirs.

I have known Bob for years and back in the 80's he was the primary field tester for Western & Eastern Treasures, always giving an accurate and unbiased assessment of every detector model he tested, often getting him in trouble with the manufacturers. If I ever have a technical question I almost always shoot off an email to Bob. He sometimes confuses me with his technical explanations, but inevitably I can get him to talk Dick Stout language.

Bob is a working graphic artist today and a good one. If you saw any of the following way back when, you were seeing handiwork. I saw the mastheads while looking through a few oldies last night, and thought I would plug Bob. Just maybe he will send me a bottle of single malt?

Mastheads from old Western &
Eastern magazines
This "how to" diagram by Bob
was first created for Fisher

If you are interested in knowing more about Bob, be sure to visit R.H.Sickler, Graphic Design....



Used to think the Brits were not all that into Halloween but I found out that the guy in the Malamute Saloon loves the holiday. Starts celebrating two weeks before and keeps it up for about a week afterward. Apparently, from what I've heard, he likes being in costume too, though he's pretty gross is a dress and high heels. Oh well, just glad I don't live in his neighborhood. Bubba sent this photo of his front doorstep...



What Gives with THIS? Worse yet they come in camo and pink. Jeezus, what next.



Guess who sent me these?



October 22, 2013


Last night the winners were drawn in the Ken MacIntyre benefit, and I want to thank everyone who participated and whether or not you won a prize, you were ALL winners! The MacIntyre family is most grateful. Thanks to Butch, Anita and Jeff at American Digger magazine for their hard work as well. Ultimately we raised $7036.00, enough to pay for Ken's chemo treatments through January. Thank you all so much. You are the best!

Last night's winners:
  • Minelab X-TERRA Dual Pack (from Minelab Americas) - Tony Gaglairdi of Monroe, CT

  • White’s VX3 w/wireless headphones & carry bag (from White’s Electronics) - Leah Seace of Chester Springs, PA

  • Garrett GTI 1500 (from Garrett Electronics) -Joe Bellina of Brick, NJ

  • Fisher F75 LTD Black Edition (from Fisher/First Texas) - John Nielson of Spokane, WA

  • Tesoro Silver UMax (via Outdoor Outfitters) - Linda Bennett of Wellington, FL

  • Treasure Commander TC1 Metal Detector – Uncle Si Signature Series + Uncle Si t-shirt (from Kellyco) - Greg Moore of Louisville, KY

  • Teknetics Delta 4000 (from The Gold Digger in Raritan, NJ) - Thomas Purzycki of Watertown, NY

  • ACE 250 with headphones, coil cover & digging tool (American Detector Distributors Hurst, TX) - Skip Henning of Batavia, NY

  • $250 Gift Card from Detectors.com (Detectors Electronics) - Daniel Johnson of Rio, WI

  • Treasure Wise Carry bags (Outdoor Outfitters) - Andrew Mysinger of Chattanooga, TN

  • Treasure Wise Carry bags (Outdoor Outfitters) - Mike Race of New Holland, PA

  • Canvas Print from Karl Wagner - Mike Fuson of Madison, TN

  • Relics of the Coastal Empire by Coastal Empire History Hunters Association - Bill Dancy of Smithfield, VA

  • Where to Find Treasure by Dick Stout - Codey Klee of Forney, TX

  • In Search of Treasure by Dick Stout - Art DiFilipp of Summerville, SC

  • The New Metal Detecting: The Hobby by Dick Stout - Don Barnes of Clements, MD

  • Coin Hunting….in depth! By Dick Stout - Lisa Neumann of Oconomowoc, WI

  • Galleon Alley, The 1773 Spanish Treasure Fleet. By Weller - Jeff Sayre of Toms River, NJ

  • I Rode with Stonewall, by Douglas - Lisa Young of Proctorville, OH

  • Shipwrecks & Treasures by Cahill - David Scales of Mulga, AL

  • Treasure on the Chesapeake Bay by Tevillian and Carter - Bob Spratley of Middleburg, FL

  • Santa Fe, the Autobiography of a Southwestern Town, by LaFarge - Linda Erickson of Westminster, CO

  • The Buried Treasures of Maine, by Stevens - Eddie Huzovic of Ridgefield, NJ

  • The Outer Banks of North Carolina, by Stick - Ken Hamilton of Lexington, KY

  • Civil War on the Western Border, by Monaghan - Vincent Hirtz of Norfolk, VA

  • Sherman’s March Through the Carolinas by Barrett - Donnie Vaughn of Nashville, TN

  • Shallow Water Treasure Hunting, by Granville - Joanna DeVincent of Rockledge, FL

  • 2014 Standard Catalog of World Coins - Warren Haire of Loganville, GA

  • Antique Jewelry Identification and Price Guide - Tom Lifka of Osage, IA

  • Collecting World Coins - David Beer of Fredericksburg, VA

  • 5 Copies of Plates, Belts & Swords of the Grand Army of the Republic and the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, by Doug Roussin

  • Boots Lewis of Golden, CO
  • Mike Smith of Mobile, AL
  • Dan Sivilich of Syracuse, NY
  • Mark Sawyer of Ivor, VA
  • Sonja Lauderdale of Knox, TN

  • 3 Subscriptions to American Digger Magazine

  • Frank Lopergolo of Vineland, NJ
  • Eureka Treasure club in Westminster, CO
  • John Blue of Manassas, VA

  • 3 Subscriptions to Western & Eastern Treasures

  • Steve Norman of Brentwood, TN
  • Tony Rago of Seaside Park, NJ
  • Lisa Law of Dallas, TX

  • 3 Subscriptions to Lost Treasures

  • Bill Brockman of Cudahy, WI
  • Eric Middleton of Camden, NC
  • Jamie Britt Keefer of Audubon, PA

All of the major prizes (detectors) will be shipped direct from the manufacturers/distributors. The books will be sent by me, via media mail (please allow two weeks). The magazine subscriptions will be mailed out from Greybird Relics, and you will need to fill in the information and forward on to the publishers.



John Howland is being somewhat kind in his latest Malamute Saloon post, but I will not add my thoughts at this time. You can read John's comments by clicking HERE.


October 19, 2013


Found it interesting that Wally took a break yesterday as though it was some high holy day. It was you see "International Archaeology Day"...whatever that means. Just what do archaeologists do on this day to celebrate? Dig up a few bodies? Pull out a few drawers of finds and gloat or do they just pour a glass of milk?

Interesting that while Wally claims it's reason not to post anything he did somehow find time to visit my blog nine times, obviously working on his next post about how we here at Stout Standards are picking on him. Just more "woe is me" bullshit. His modus operandi is predictable, yet something he feels the need to continue. Oh well, life moves on and is good here. In Warsaw....?



Just saw where the Wheat State Treasure Hunters gave their first local community class on metal detecting, and I want to be the first to congratulate them. Steve Ukena and the rest of the club should be very proud. They worked hard to make this happen and this metal detecting class is now part of the local community curriculum, and a big step forward for us all. Hope a few more clubs will look into doing the same..



Does anyone else hate those websites where when you hit the back arrow nothing happens?

A suggestion to all you tekkies who love to take photos of your finds. How about one or two that are NOT in a "clump of dirt" and uploaded instantly.... You know, clean it up, take a photo when you get home. We will believe you found it....honest.


October 17, 2013


Your last chance! The names of the winners in the Ken MacIntyre effort will be drawn Monday night on the American Digger magazine's Relic Roundup show, starting at 9pm EST. You still have time to enter and be a winner. For a list of all the prizes and how to get entered into the drawing click HERE. Thanks to all who have donated to this cause and good luck on Monday night.



Have added a couple of new links to my BLOG, both of which are works in progress, so bear with me. The club website link lists only those clubs with active websites, and if I have not included your club please let me know so that I can add it. The other link, articles and tips, includes older articles I've written over the years for Western & Eastern Treasures magazine. Many thanks to Steve and Rosemary Anderson for allowing me this privilege.



For any of my long time subscribers you know of my interest in this topic. I guess it has a lot to do with my love of research. The effort to find the remains of this famous American flyer is fascinating, and I have followed the TIGHAR group's effort for quite some time. I mention this again because of this recent news item from yesterday. Finding her plane will surely answer a lot of questions.

I suspect that many of you may not even know of Amelia Earhart or care about this, but if you do, I highly recommend "Finding Amelia: The True Story of the Earhart Disappearance" by Ric Gillespie and "Amelia Earhart's Shoes" by King, Jacobson, Burns & Spalding. Good reads...

While it hasn't garnered as much interest I also read all I can about the disappearance of Glenn Miller over the English channel during WWII. Having played in the only authorized Glenn Miller band in the early sixties makes it even more interesting.

Okay, now that I bored the hell out of you...go dig something!


October 15, 2013


Now that I am retired I am constantly thinking of ways to bring in a few extra dollars. Living on Social Security just barely works, and when something extra comes in it’s like Christmas. I’ve thought about writing magazine articles again but the pay is not exactly over whelming, and while I am working on an update to one of my books, I have no firm commitment that it will be needed or published.

Obviously I could go detecting and hope I find a hoard or vein of gold but the chances of that happening are slim and none! I thought about robbing a bank, but thanks to my arthritis the teller probably wouldn't be able to read my note. Also I am not fleet of foot anymore, and would probably be shot before I got out the front door, and if did I would be driving a yellow VW Beetle with "Pug Bug" on the license plate. Not exactly a great getaway car.

Next I thought about starring in porn movies, but after emailing a few of the producers they said they didn't need any more senior citizen studs. That was disappointing to say the least. Oh well, their loss (sorry gals).

Ultimately I kept coming back to detecting. Those silver dimes here and there were not going to put me on easy street, and wouldn't even pay for my time and gas. Suddenly I remembered a few posts John Winter shared about a UK tekkie named Steve Halward, who cleverly found a way to turn his trash into art. This was certainly a possibility. Take a look...

Photos courtesy of John Winter and Steve Halward

The problem with this of course is that I am not the least bit artistic. I also don't have a workplace nor the tools, and if I did I would probably beat the hell out of my hands or burn the house down. So I then began thinking about other items of junk (which I am quite good at finding) and how I might make good use of them...

Obviously the first thing that came to mind was the pulltab. Perhaps if I started saving them I could sell items like this:

I flew this idea by John Howland for his opinion, and he laughed it off as bullshit until I shared this photo, and he suddenly liked the idea and wanted in on the action. This is a possibility for sure.

Then my old friend Jessie Thompson recently posted a photo on Facebook and got me thinking about all those old silver spoons sitting out in the garage. Just maybe I could polish them up, pound the hell out them (along with my hands), and make rings? And is anybody doing silver spoon nose rings...nope! Der ya go! Another project in the folder.

Then I thought about bottle caps and wondered what I could do with those. I saw the following photo and showed it to Fay. She quickly told me what I could do with those bottle caps (will pass on this one)...

Anyway I have a couple of potential projects to think about. Given the nature of each I could most definitely corner the market. Think about it... "Stout Standards Bags, Bras and Nose Rings"! It might take me a while to collect the tabs, but it would give me time to find my first model. Likewise I will need to dig out all those tarnished spoons and see if I have any that would look good sticking out of a nose. I will keep you posted on my progress...

And you know, just maybe I will shoot off a few more emails to those porn producers....this time with a photo....I probably just contacted the wrong ones.



Britain's First Crown Jewels

Man Arrested Digging up Civil War Artifacts

First Texas Cracks Down on Counterfeit Ring

Emerging Technologies Give Modern Treasure Hunters New Depths to Explore

Another Adventure With the Hoard



Just a reminder that the Ken MacIntyre drawing will take place Monday night on the Relic Roundup Show. It's not too late to get entered and possibly win one of the many great prizes being given away, including eight metal detectors. To see the list of prizes and to find out how to enter click HERE.


October 12, 2013


I received another contribution from the bartender at the Malamute Saloon, and you can read it by clicking HERE. This time John shares his views on the Garrett ATPro International and the joys of living in Warsaw.

Yesterday I was digging through a drawer of old photos and found a couple of Bubba from a quite few years ago....The first is from a talk, or should I say a lecture, John gave at an early FMDAC convention. The second is from a fly fishing trip to Scotland, and I have to share his methodology here.

He starts off by making a big deal over which fly to use, sorting through fifty or so he says he has tied himself (they all look alike). Then after deciding on just the perfect puppy, he whips the line about a dozen times, looking really good in the process, lays that "can't miss" fly gently on the surface, slowly brings it in by hand, and then has a sip or two of beer. He then repeats this process again and again until the beer is gone. When it is he calls it a day and seeks out the closest pub, telling anyone there who will listen, how they "just weren't taking the bait today". True story!.


October 10, 2013


Last night I decided to sit myself down and watch a the baseball playoff game (Cardinals vs. Pirates). I was not overly excited simply because I had no dog in the hunt. I am a die hard Yankee fan from the late 40's. Anyway, after sitting down I realized it also the same time for the Dig Fellas show on the Travel Channel, and decided to see what was going on with Bill and Hooooooward.

Bill Ladd & Howard Hewitt

If you read my take on this show (September 5th & 12th) all I can say is "ditto" again. This series is so predictable it's annoying. One interesting thing happened last night though.... Bill Ladd starts off the show with his new piece of equipment, and opens this generic brown box. Guess what was in it? Hmmm, yep, the new Garrett ATX "mine sweeper". Apparently Garrett has the inside track on all the TV shows now, and I have to give them credit for the great marketing job.

I decided to watch the show, and in 30 minutes I was given a brief synopsis of where the pair was heading, the history of the site, the various layouts, the actual hunting (all five minutes of it), the over done, heavy drama (leading only to the commercial) and the (surprise, surprise) "expert evaluation" of the finds along with estimated values. That folks is "Dig Fellas" and every other tekkie show on TV.

Please let me say again... I do not dislike Bill Ladd or Howard Hewitt. Quite the contrary. The are both expert detectorists and their pedigree precedes them. They are very knowledgeable about the pastime and their reputations are impeccable. I just wish there were some way for their talents to shine more, and that apparently will never happen until the producers start listening to those who do this day in and day out.

Stop trying to cram hours of information into 30 minutes. Share more about the site in question, not only the history, but the research that leads up to the actual hunt itself. Next maybe tell something about "metal detectors". You know those things that are really the reason for the show (or are they?)

Next, please, no more orgasms over every item dug up....it's just bad acting and annoying as hell. Stop too with the "instant identification" of what is found. Last night they pulled out what looked like a small, mucky, encrusted cylindrical piece with glass on one end, and it was immediately labeled a spyglass and surely used in the Civil War battle site they were hunting. Why not show the items that are found at the end of the show, AFTER they are cleaned, THEN tell a little more about what the hell they are and please, no exaggerated values!

Do the producers of these show ever ask for input from the manufacturers or from the cast? My guess is that they spend most of their time trying to find some "historical" and sometimes far fetched, site to feature and then someone to give over inflated prices at the end. Anything in-between is secondary. I know I sound like sour grapes and if so, go ahead and shoot me down. I really, really WANT to like these shows, trust me. It's just hard.



Well, after a little prodding, or should I say direct questioning about his credentials, Warsaw Wally finally changed his bio...it now reads:

"Bearded cat lover living and working in Warsaw Poland. Since the early 1990s a primary interest has been research on artefact hunting and collecting and the market in portable antiquities in the international context and their effect on the archaeological record".

Well, now we at least know he does love "something" although I now worry about any felines who live with him... Let me also suggest another change Wally. Why not be totally honest and add this:



I am still waiting for that detector with one knob and a screen that offers "yep" and "nope"


October 7, 2013



Another reminder that the Ken MacIntyre benefit drawing will take place October 21st and if you've not purchased your tickets I hope you will soon. Likewise if you have, why not get a few more. The more you spend the better your chances of winning one of the many great prizes available. I know I have mentioned this effort many times here, but you know what? Ken recently had his 4th chemo treatment and he still has eight more to go. Not exactly a fun schedule, nor something to look forward to.

I am also well aware that Ken is not the only one in the world having to go through something like this. He is however the son of a friend, and an unlikely friend at that. His Mom, Lisa Hume MacIntyre is an archaeologist, and by now you know how much I love archaeologists. This time, however, it's different. Lisa is different. While I have never met Lisa, I was privileged to debate her on the Relic Roundup show a couple months back, and surprise of surprises....she was civil, understanding, and appreciated what it is we do. Do we still have differences? You bet, but we have since become good friends, and when I found out about Ken I just wanted to help in some way.

Shortly after asking you all for help here I received an email from Alan Holcombe at White's Electronics. He said "how about if we donate a White's VX3 detector package and you find a way to raise money with it". Honestly I was not at all surprised. I have known Alan for 30 years and both he and White's have gone out of their way so many times to help people that I've lost count, and there were times when their generosity went unannounced or advertised. It's just how they are and why I am proud to be part of their family.

Ken is now a tekkie

In any case when I mentioned this to Butch & Anita Holcombe (no relation to Alan) at American Digger Magazine they said, "hey, hold on, let's see if just maybe we can get the rest of the manufacturers on board with this" and to make a long story short, we did, and we're still working on getting prizes. To find out how you can help and how you might win one of these prizes click HERE.

I want to also add that White's was kind enough to send Ken a Coinmaster GT to help him get through the tough days ahead. Thank you Alan, thank you White's, and thank you to all the other manufacturers, distributors. dealers and magazines for your very generous donations. This is a great pastime, a great group of people, and we always come together when it comes to helping out a friend.



John Howland, as usual, has written another terrific post for the Malamute Saloon and I hope you will take the time to read it. While much of John writes about is what takes place in the UK, his topic this time around can apply to us here in the states...

I, like John, also believe those that work so hard to take us down, to make us the scapegoats, often do so to divert attention from their own malpractice.

Please click HERE for the latest from John Howland.



Roy Routledge, an old friend and treasure hunter, recently replied on my blog with a few recommendations for the legendary and inspirational group being discussed. He brought up Rocky LeGaye, and my mind instantly went to his "The Electronic Metal Detector Handbook". This 1969 book has been in my collection many years and I can still pick it up and finds a few words of wisdom. Yes, much of the technical data is outdated, but his tips, stories and opinions are still valid today.

A few of the oldies...

His book, along with a few others in my collection, was responsible for my TH'ing addiction. I very quickly went from strumming a guitar to digging in the dirt....how's that for an about-face? I have, of course, always wondered what would have happened if I kept on pickin...

Books have played a big part in my life, and I still love to read. Tell me about YOUR favorites. You can comment on my blog...


October 6, 2013


You've heard me talk about Dave Wise and Todd Thiltz here a few times (see here). They are very successful colonial cellar hole diggers in the Northeast and their finds never fail to knock me out. In any case Dave, (a.k.a., Heavy Metal Nut on all the forums) for whatever reason, has decided to start a Facebook page Legends & Inspirational People of Metal Detecting.

I was not aware of this until he messaged me yesterday and mentioned that I was one of his first inductees, nominations, flunkies, brainfarts, whatever. Needless to say I was flattered, but also somewhat embarrassed because I really don't consider myself a legend or inspiration. You see his first four names were Jimmy Sierra, Ron Guinazzo, Ken White Jr. & I. I understand why Dave came up with these names, but found it a somewhat interesting mix. Now Dave is being inundated with names for both categories and the list is growing by the minute.

When Dave first messaged me about being included in the first four, I tried like hell to opt out, and even told him to kiss my butt. Apparently he really liked the thought of that (talk about grossing me out), and my name still stayed on the page. Anyway I then started throwing out a few names of my own, and yep, he wasn't familiar with any of them. He wasn't familiar because he is from a whole new generation of TH'ers, detectorists, diggers, tekkies (thanks Wally) and hunters. Understandable for sure. I must say I was not familiar as well with a few of the names thrown into the ring from the younger detectorists as well....obviously "after my time" (now that's a first)

So, who were my "old" idols and inspirations? In no particular order...Karl von Mueller, Charles Garrett, Bob Marx, Hardrock Hendricks, Abe Lincoln, Ray Smith, Lucille Bowen, Betty Weeks, Kay Modgling, Eleanor Hube, George Mrockzkowski, Richard Ray, Roy Lagal, Paul Tainter, Ernie Curlee, Van Fossen, Sandy Cline, Larry "Packrat" Bateham, Jim Warnke, Glenn Carson, Roy Volker, Dick Richman and W.C. Jameson.

Does anyone remember Kay Modgling?

I would also have to add in three from the manufacturing genre....the late Ken White, Sr., the founder of White's Electronics (whose phone calls and correspondence were what kept me going early on), Alan Holcombe, currently the Corporate Manager at Whites, and the late Jim Lewellen (Fisher Research Labs). I am sure I have left out a few names here and will do my best to add them later.

And so Dave Wise you have your work cut out for you. Be prepared for lots of other names to be added to your Facebook page. It's an effort that is fraught with yea's and nay's. and bravo's and hisses. Everyone has their own opinions and it really depends on who you ask and how far back they go.

There's no doubt that today's hunters are in a league of their own, and should most certainly be recognized and remembered for years to come. My hope, however, is that they will make room for those who came before. They were my idols and heroes for good reason...

Dave, good luck with this new Facebook page. It should be a fun one, and it will be interesting to see where it leads. I also promise not to sabotage your effort with bawdy photos and corny jokes (well, maybe not).



Why do detectorists keep bringing up the age old question of "do items keep sinking in the ground?" No one knows the answer to that, nor does anyone really care! Just go hunt for crissakes

If deer hunters wore pink, would tekkies do the same?

Suggestion to all coinshooters. Start hunting rural fields. Easy to get permission, less worry with digging techniques, and chances are that farmer or land owner can steer you to a few old cellar holes (and don't forget those stacked stone walls).

I once asked a female tekkie why there weren't more gals in the pastime? After all it was a healthy outdoor pastime and you can come home with money in your pocket. She replied, "Easier to marry a lawyer or doctor".

If camo is now the rage, can face paint and swat teams be far behind?


Lastly, from the Malamute Saloon...

"As I hurtled through space, one thought kept crossing my mind - every part of this rocket was supplied by the lowest bidder"..John Glenn


October 4, 2013


Got thinking about a few of my old coin hunting haunts back in New Jersey, and the Flemington Fairgrounds was one of them. The Flemington Fair (or Hunterdon County Fair as it was called early on) started in the 1850's and continued until 2003, attracting thousands year after year. It was also the site of the famous Flemington Speedway.

I was fortunate enough to be able to hunt there, and the number of old coins I found there would probably fill a cigar box, but I have to also add that I worked my ass off to find them. The grounds were littered with bottlecaps, pulltabs, you name it. In amongst them....Liberty Seated, Barbers, Indian Heads and even a few Large Cents, not to mention the newer silver coins.

Early Photo of Flemington Speedway

Today, on this site you have a huge shopping center, featuring a WalMart and a Lowes. I thought I would bring this up because just recently the Erie County Parks Commission in New York was talking about banning detecting in their "historical" parks. Well folks there was nothing more historical than the Flemington Fairgrounds, yet the local powers to be there decided it was better to replace it with big box "bullshit" stores. You know the same as those just up the road a few miles.

Flemington Fairgrounds Gone Forever

So, don't sit on your butt. Knock on that door and ask. Find out who is in charge and go for it because tomorrow it might be gone... I get mad everytime I think about this, and it's only one of a number of sites that I hunted years ago that are not available today. So much for the preservationists!



Job Interview:

Human Resources Manager: "What is your greatest weakness?"

Old Man : "Honesty."

Human Resources Manager: "I don't think honesty is a weakness."

Old Man : "I don't really give a shit what you think."

This courtesy of John Howland (of course).


Bill & Robert Proenza

When Robert Proenza emailed last week wanting to donate a detector to the Ken Macintyre cause I promised I would get in the pug bug and visit American Detector Distributors. I did that yesterday and met up with Robert and his father Bill, whom I've known for over 25 years. American Detectors is located in Bedford, Texas, about an hour from where I suffer here in Texas, and is a wholesaler/distributor for many of the top line detectors

I must say I was knocked over at the operation and it's new setup. I say that because years ago I worked for Bill after leaving Garrett, and ADD was just starting to grow. Today they occupy three store fronts, and if it's related to treasure hunting in any way shape or form, they have it! Their stock room is chock full to the point where they can't open any of the incoming shipments, and the shipping department was humming.

After a tour of the various areas, I spent some time checking a few of the various models hanging on the wall, and was impressed with Robert's knowledge of everyone I picked up. He answered all my questions quickly, and even shared a few tips on various setups and nuances. He most definitely knows his business, and was straight forward with his opinions and thoughts on each one I looked at.

It was great to see Bill again, and we spent some time talking about the good ole days, the people and characters we had both lost touch with, and of course some of those fun times we had. Fun times that I would love to share them here but cannot. You see both Bill and I are married....

While American Detector Distributors is primarily a wholesale operation they also have a retail store front, and I highly recomment a visit if you live in the Dallas, Fort Worth area. They are located at 510 Hardwood Road, Suite K and if you need directions, give them a call at the 800-933-2897. They carry metal detectors, both hobby and security, pin-pointers, diggers, pouches, books and so much more. They not only welcome shoppers, they have a dining room table in the front of the store if you want to just sit down and talk treaure hunting (hint...donut store a few doors down). If you do decide to visit be sure and tell them Dick Stout sent you.


October 3, 2013


Just a reminder that on the October 21st Relic Roundup Show we will be drawing the winners of 8 metal detectors, plus a wide array of books, magazine subscriptions, art work and more, with all of the proceeds going to help out Ken MacIntyre, son of archaeologist Lisa Hume MacIntyre.

Lisa just shared the following on Facebook.....

"For those interested here is the latest update on Ken. He had treatment number 4 of 12 on the 26th. His doctor advised us that his WBC is very low. While this is not unusual while on chemo, what concerns her is that is not bumping slightly back up between treatments. Instead it is staying low and slightly dipping each time. There is a number you can't allow the WBC to fall below without risking death from even the slightest infection. She is going to watch the count closely the next two weeks and she may skip the next treatment in hopes of the count raising. Not ideal, but may need to be done. The treatment hit very hard this time. Ken is having a very rough week. PET scan is tomorrow. This is the first PET after treatment started and his doc will use it to compare to first PET scan. This will tell us if the chemo is working. So this test is a VERY big deal. As always, thank each and every one of you for all the support!"

If you'd like to join our effort, help Ken out, and get your name entered into the drawing click on Ken’s photo below for all the details....



Carter Pennington, president of the Task Force for Metal Detecting Rights has decided to step down, and is passing the baton to Avery Marder, currently Vice President & Co-Chair. His message is as follows...

Task Force Members,

Two years ago the Task Force expanded to a national level since challenges to our favorite pastime were presenting themselves all across the country. We are happy to say that your voices made and continue to make a difference.

I have been involved with the Task Force for over five years and it is time for me to “pass the baton” as president of the Task Force. Our VP, Avery Marder, will be acting president in the interim.

The Task Force is comprised of close to 1400 members and growing every day. The board that runs the Task Force is a 100% volunteer group.

The Task Force is always looking for volunteers. Please email our social media board member Allyson@detectingrights.com if you are interested.

It has been a privilege serving such a great hobby and working with the Task Force.

Carter Pennington



I somehow need to remind myself to stop checking in on the various detecting forums. I hesitate to share the following but I will because I think it's necessary. Just maybe a few forum owners and moderators will wake up and realize that statements like these, humorous or not, do nothing but hurt our cause. And please, I am not advocating any kind of censorship. I am a big believer in free speech. Just that we all need to think before we open our mouths. One's man's humor can be another man's brick. What do you think?

"Government Shutdown... hmmm. Does this mean we can hunt National Parks?"

"With a Government Shutdown looming, and if Federal Park employees go on furlough, does that mean all National Parks and Federal Land is open season for Metal Detecting?"

"What I've always heard is; a law is only a law if it is enforced. Our border with Mexico is proof of that!!"

"Gettysburg anyone Lol?"

Finally someone spoke up...

"frightening to believe that a law is the only thing keeping some from digging up Gettysburg or other important historical monuments".

Yep, frightening indeed........As Mark Twain said "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt".



Good chance many of you are already familiar with this blog (started in 2010), but I stumbled upon it this morning and thought I would pass the line along anyway. Seems to be a post every day and lots of great information...




In the past I have posted links to my blog updates on a few of the many detecting forums out there. I no longer do that.....way too many hassles and annoyances. If you wish to receive an email when I do post, click on the photo below and enter your email address where it says "Follow blog via email"...bottom of left column. Thanks....


October 1, 2013


Actually not a lot of things going on here in Texas and I have run out of brainfarts... As a result I decided to let John Howland take the first page here this time around. He will of course owe me for this, but as is always the case I can't collect until I see him again. He buys me beers, scotch but never sends money. Afraid I guess I might waste it on something else...

So here ya go - John Howland at his finest (as in stoned)! Remember John's musings can always be found by clicking on the Malamute Saloon link above.

Thanks Bubba....


This is how the UK deals with objects recovered by metal detectorists. What follows is taken from the Portable Antiquities Scheme (PAS) website and explains precisely what the scheme is all about.

Why not show this to your State legislators. It’s arguably pre-eminent method of dealing with and encouraging members of the public to report items and objects found by them, detectorists, and archaeologists alike.

“Thousands of archaeological objects are discovered every year, many by members of the public, particularly by people while metal-detecting. If recorded, these finds have great potential to transform archaeological knowledge, helping us understand when, where and how people lived in the past.

“The Portable Antiquities Scheme offers the only proactive mechanism for systematically recording such finds, which are made publicly available on its online database. This data is an important educational and research resource that can be used by anyone interested in learning more.

“The Portable Antiquities Scheme is managed by the British Museum, and funded by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport through a ring-fenced grant, the British Museum and local partners. Its work is guided by the Portable Antiquities Advisory Group, whose membership includes leading archaeological, landowner and metal-detecting organisations.

“Under the Treasure Act 1996 finders have a legal obligation to report all finds of potential Treasure to the local Coroner. The Portable Antiquities Scheme and its network of Finds Liaison Officers play an essential role in the operation of the Act, advising finders of their legal obligations, providing advice on the process and writing reports for Coroners on Treasure finds.

“The Act allows a national or local museum to acquire Treasure finds for public benefit. If this happens a reward is paid, which is (normally) shared equally between the finder and landowner; interested parties may wish to waive their right to a reward, enabling museums to acquire finds at reduced or no cost. Rewards are fixed at the full market value of the find, determined by the Secretary of State upon the advice of an independent panel of experts, known as the Treasure Valuation Committee.”

From the date of its inception, the PAS has recorded over 800,000 items of historic interest found by members of the public, though overwhelmingly the majority are the result of metal detecting activity. Bizarrely, only a handful of the PAS’s recorded objects, by comparison, owe their reportage to archaeological enterprise even though archaeologists are not discouraged from adding to the database.



"Fifty Shades of Red"

By Pavel M Lenin

(First published in 1987 as, Why I Hate the ‘kin West: And Every ‘kin Bastard in it! )

Category: Fiction (Was £50, but they are paying this to take it away); Published by: Heritage Fiction, Warsaw, Poland...

This somewhat bumptious opus (it must be said) is the story of Hoiking Coynes, a young man sent down from university in mysterious circumstances who then flees the Free West to take up residence behind the Iron Curtain. Here he is welcomed and financed by the Comrades to pen a somewhat impenetrable history book of no particular importance or relevance. For the first time in his seedy life, Hoiking is treated with the respect and adulation denied him in the Free West evinced by the Apparatchiks who elevate him to the Party hierarchy, then finance his limited writing abilities in the aforementioned, pretentious, labyrinthine historical text.

Paradoxically, Hoiking owes everything in life to the Communist regime even though he is seemingly ignorant that political prisoners, torture, imprisonment without trial are fundamental to the Worker State. To ingratiate himself further with his adopted politicos, he harangues the Capitalist Free West and all its values especially that of allowing private collecting by individuals. He is rewarded with the honorary rank of Commissar.

The Communists appoint him to a senior role within the heritage bureaucracy – much to the resentment of his Communist-hating juniors over whom he lords his position. His struggle to manifest his long-held dream of becoming a famous, widely admired archaeologist evaporates when the Berlin Wall collapses and the freedom fighters take their revenge, after which the only employment open to him – he being a former crony of the much detested Communist State – is taxi-driving, or as a jobbing latrine attendant. Of course he is unable to return to live in his native land, where in the wake of years of throwing insults at it, no one wants him back anyway. He does however manage to creep in under the radar for brief visits with academic crypto-communists.

But his fortunes change in the final chapter when true love blossoms with Nigella, a semi-literate, ageing, good-time gal and archaeological groupie. In the event, they conduct a passionate and breathless affair writing billets-doux via their blogs, though full consummation of their love is not made clear and is left very much to the reader’s imagination.



Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake...

I’ll See Y’all in the Bar!

John H.


September 29, 2013


When I started detecting back in the 70's I did a lot of reading. I read books by Karl von Mueller, Charles Garrett, Roy Lagal. Roy Volker, Dick Richmond, Glenn Carson and Estee Conatser, among others. I read Western & Eastern Treasures, Lost Treasure, Treasure Found, Treasure, Treasure World, World of Treasures, True Treasure and Old West magazines. When I read I was transported to places I'd never been, and it didn't matter that I was a newbie, in my mind and certainly in my dreams, I was a treasure hunter.

Fast forward to today.... Many of the authors mentioned above have passed on, the number of treasure magazines available today has dwindled dramatically and the ability to dream, to keep those treasures alive, real or imaginary, seems to have also disappeared. A fellow New Jerseyan Tony Conti (a.k.a. Big Tony from Bayonne) and I talk about this and still share thoughts, theories and ideas on legendary treasures, especially those back home in the Northeast.

Have I ever looked for legendary treasures? Yes I have. I and a friend, Joe Attinello (who passed away in March of this year), spent some time looking for the cave where the Doan Gang supposedly buried their loot in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and later we searched for John Ringo's treasure, only seven miles from my house in Hunterdon County, New Jersey. Did we find them? No. Did they really exist? Hard to say. What I do know is that we had a helluva lot of fun researching and looking for them, and who knows, maybe someday someone will find one or both. How cool would that be?

In the mid-80's I was privileged to meet Mel Fisher shortly after he discovered the Atocha. He was in Atlantic City the same weekend of our FMDAC event, and Charles McKinney, Director of the Atlantic Alliance for Maritime Heritage, invited Fay and I to their event at another hotel nearby. When we entered the crowded room, there in the middle was Mel Fisher with a huge gold chain around his neck and a bevy of young gals hanging all over him.

Charles introduced us, we shook hands and while he was "six sheets to the wind", he was still able to remove the chain and put it around Fay's neck, whispering sweet nothings in her ear while doing it. Yep, here was Mel Fisher making a move on my wife, and all I could do was just stand there staring in awe. After all here was a guy who had a dream, one that lasted sixteen years, cost millions of dollars, took the lives of his son and daughter-in-law, and he never gave up!

Anyway, today is today, I am what I am, and life goes on. I can deal with it (well somedays I can). At my age I know I will never get to look for the Lost Dutchman, Oak Island or Little Big Horn treasures, but I will remember the Doan gang, John Ringo and the night Mel Fisher was hitting on my wife...



  • How long before detecting videos on YouTube wind up getting someone in trouble?

  • When all is said and done don’t we just need volume, disc, and all metal?

  • How many treasure hunting forums do we really need, and aren't the same people on all of them?

  • A suggestion....learn to use a probe. I predict you won’t be sorry and you won’t get your sorry ass kicked out of parks.

  • Are video cameras, swingy thingys and camo now considered standard equipment?

  • Whatever happened to George Payne?

  • Would archaeologists be happier if the Staffordshire hoard was never found?

  • Tell the truth...how many of you have found enough treasure to cover the cost of your gear?

  • Ever wonder if all those tekkies who claim to have found “numerous” gold coins really did?

  • Here's hoping every metal detector manuacturer offers wireless headphones for all new models in the future. I mean the technology is not exactly new...

  • I think every detecting club should ask members to save all their trash, and then at the end of the year put it in a box and deliver it to the local city hall with a “your welcome” note attached!

  • Typical script for treasure hunting reality shows. "Holy cow, come here, look at his" (commercial break) and "I would say it's worth....pause....pause....pause, a zillion dollars"

  • Hate to say it but it’s hard for me to get excited about a Roosie or Merc anymore. It's either old age or one of my pills.

  • Just my opinion but I think the shovel type recovery tools are not helping our image?

  • As much as I hate to admit it, those middle range targets tend to take a back seat now...hurts too much just to add to my pulltab collection.

  • Why have we become such a “it's their problem not mine” group of hobbyists? Don't believe me? Go on a forum, tell them about your city parks being closed and see how many responses you get....

  • Why do pin-pointers cost so much? I mean really, come on!

  • Why can’t we get back to basics again....no knee pads, no pin-pointers, no lethal diggers, no cameras.....you know, just research and leg work? Hell, I’ll even give up my walker!

  • Curious. Would your wife let you go detecting with a female club member? Just the two of you?

  • Am I the only one who misses the old short, staccato-like audio responses? Seems they used to define targets so much better.

  • Why do arkies blame US because THEY aren’t working?

  • And finally, will Wally and Harry ever get a pair?


Climber Finds Mont Blanc Treasure

British Museum to Show Viking Treasures


September 28, 2013


Thanks to American Detector Distributors, we've added another detector to the Ken MacIntyre effort. American Detector Distributors is located in Bedford, Texas and is a wholesaler for Garrett, Fisher, Tekentics, Sun-Ray, Wilcox, Detector-Pro among others. To help our cause they are donating a complete Garrett Ace package (detector, 6.5x9 coil cover, Pro-Power Headphones, and Lesche Digger)...total retail value $340!

I've known Bill Proenza and his son Robert for 25 years, and was not surprised when they emailed saying they wanted to participate. They're a top notch company and a very caring group of people!

For those of you who aren't aware, Bill is also the Regional Director of the National Weather Service's Southern region, and has been with the organization for close to 50 years. Despite his busy schedule he still finds time to go detecting, and I've enjoyed being in his company more than once. Bill and Robert, on behalf of the MacIntyre family, thank you!!

So come on folks, why not donate to a good cause and just maybe come away with a new detector or one of the many other great prizes available. The drawing will take place on the American Digger Magazine's Relic Roundup show three weeks from this Monday.



I am sitting here this morning looking at this and saying "come on mamma". I know it's hard for those of you who have had too much of the wet stuff this year but down here we need it desperately. Come to think of it, I need to talk to Bill about this?


September 26, 2013


Another reminder that the Ken MacIntyre benefit drawing will take place October 21st and if you've not purchased your tickets I hope you will soon. Likewise if you have, why not get a few more. The more you spend the better your chances of winning one of the many great prizes available. I know I have mentioned this effort many times here, but you know what? Ken had his 4th chemo treatment today and he still has eight more to go. Not exactly a fun schedule, nor something to look forward to.

I am also well aware that Ken is not the only one in the world having to go through something like this. He is however the son of a friend, and an unlikely friend at that. His Mom, Lisa Hume MacIntyre is an archaeologist, and by now you know how much I love archaeologists. This time, however, it's different. Lisa is different. While I have never met Lisa, I was privileged to debate her on the Relic Roundup show a couple months back, and surprise of surprises....she was civil, understanding, and appreciated what it is we do. Do we still have differences? You bet, but we have since become good friends, and when I found out about Ken I just wanted to help in some way.

Shortly after asking you all for help here I received an email from Alan Holcombe at White's Electronics. He said "how about if we donate a White's VX3 detector package and you find a way to raise money with it". Honestly I was not at all surprised. I have known Alan for 30 years and both he and White's have gone out of their way so many times to help people that I've lost count, and there were times when their generosity went unannounced or advertised. It's just how they are and why I am proud to be part of their family.

Ken is now a tekkie

In any case when I mentioned this to Butch & Anita Holcombe (no relation to Alan) at American Digger Magazine they said, "hey, hold on, let's see if just maybe we can get the rest of the manufacturers on board with this" and to make a long story short, we did, and we're still working on getting prizes. To find out how you can help and how you might win one of these prizes click HERE.

I want to also add that White's was kind enough to send Ken a Coinmaster GT to help him get through the tough days ahead. Thank you Alan, thank you White's, and thank you to all the other manufacturers, distributors. dealers and magazines for your very generous donations. This is a great pastime, a great group of people, and we always come together when it comes to helping out a friend.



Well I was bored last night and decided to see what "Dig Fellas" was up to, but after watching a few mintues, I decided to watch "Naked & Afraid". I will say this however...someone should give that gal appraiser a detector and quick. Why they can even save money by not having to write a script. She doesn't have to utter a word. I would gladly spend 30 minutes just watching her swing a coil and frankly I don't care if she finds a thing.



Apparently Mr. Barford (a.k.a. Warsaw Wally) continues to piss people off. Seems no one is immune to the Polish troll. His latest targets are the Ancient Coins and Cultural Property Observe blogs, and as it should be, neither Dave Welsh, Ancient Coins blogger nor Peter Tompa at CPO are taking his crap. Good for them. He's a poor excuse for a human being, and seems to think he can insert himself in any conversation or blog. How presumptious...

For the record no one ever responds to Wally's blog except Nigel Swift (Heritage Action), his bosom buddy. The reason? It's a complete waste of time. There's no debating Wally, and if you try you learn quickly that getting a root canal is a better way to spend your time. Anyway I am glad to see Dave and Peter firing back. There's a limit to how much one can take of this odorous individual.


September 25, 2013


Someone recently said, in regards to my blog, that I'm been much too confrontational and that I like to start controversies where none exist. On the other hand I had a couple of people who told me "I tell it like it is", and they appreciated that. Well, let me "try" to respond if I may....

First off the Miriam Webster online Dictionary defines a blog thusly:

BLOG: A web site on which someone writes about personal opinions, activities, and experiences...

So please remember that when I write here I am sharing my opinions, nothing more. If what I say offends you I am sorry, but your being offended won't change anythng unless you can convince me otherwise by responding, and I hope you will always do that. I welcome feedback, good or bad. That's what makes a blog interesting and yes, somteimes controversial. Without the back and forth a blog is not worth a whole lot, much like the one in Warsaw that you can smell all the way over here in North Texas.

I do indeed write about what is on my mind, whether it's something affecting the pastime, a recent news item or just something I think you might enjoy. Am I confrontational from time to time? Probably...can't help myself sometimes. Being confronational is often the only way to get an answer, solve a problem or elicit a response from someone who needs to speak up. Do I start controversies where none exist? Perhaps, but again I write here to share my thoughts and opinions, not necessarily to make friends, although I would like to think that happens more often than not.

I am sure too that I offend a few with my language, but I find it difficult to sugar coat my feelings, especially when someone or something pisses me off (see, der ya go). I am who I am, and hope you will cut me some slack in this area. I shouldn't admit this, but there were times when my choice of words was so bad I was embarrassed and edited out a few adjectives. Must be that ole Northeast, "let me tell you how I feel" coming out (well okay, that and the red wine too).

Okay, sometimes it's the wine....

I think if you look back over my posts you will find my anger is usually directed at specific individuals, but I will not apologize for anything said toward them or about them. They deserve any and all negative comments coming their way, and I can assure you I am not the only that feels this way. You will find others, in related fields of interest who also find the Bobbsey Twins difficult to take.

Now, having said all this, please do respond when something bothers you here, or when you think I am out of bounds. I promise to respond politely and will try to explain my position, or why I said what I said. Understand you might still be angry with me afterward but that's okay. It's what makes the world go round....

Now please, get the hell off my lawn...



Inquest Reveals Hidden Past of Buried Treasure

Iron Age Horse Found as Norway Glacier Melts

Woman Reunited with Lost Engagement Ring


September 23, 2013


Well once again a few people have decided to dump on detectorists and attempt to control what it is we do, even though they can't offer up a good reason why. They're apparently coming after us just for something to do. Please read this Buffalo News article and see if you can find the mention of one incident or situation where a detectorist was cited for doing damage? Maybe I am missing something.

It seems Erie County Parks commissioner Troy Schinzel has way too much time on his hands, and nothing better to do than attempt to limit metal detecting in parks under his supervision. Mr. Schinzel states "I am concerned about that activity occurring in our historic or older parks,” Yep he is concerned about "that activity", whatever "that acitivity" is. And just what does he mean by "historic" and "older" parks? Either the writer of this article left something out, or Mr. Schinzel isn't being upfront with his reasons.

The article also states "Schinzel is not alone", and precedes to mention other areas of the country where detecting is regulated. Well so what? What does any of that have to do with Erie County? Are generalities or personal agendas all that's needed? Sorry ladies. but it burns my ass when suddenly someone in local government decides to spend taxpayer money going after a taxpayer's pastime and enjoyment. Do they not have anything better or more important to do? I have to wonder if this is really Mr. Schinzel's idea or whether someone else put a bug in his ear. My guess is it's the latter.

The one saving grace in all this is Mark Schuessler, president of the FMDAC. He is quoted in the article and I've been told he's already on top of this. Mark is experienced when it comes fighting city hall, and hopefully he can talk reason and common sense to the Erie County Parks commission.

Think this can't happen in your neck of the woods? Hmm, think again....



Well the temps finally fell into the low 80's here in North Texas, and I decided to see what kind of treasures awaited outside my door. I inserted four fresh C batteries (thanks Dick Tichan) in my trusty 6000di and headed across the lake to an haunt that has been known to give up a silver coin or two. Today was no different but after an hour and a half I HAD to leave (Only if you have ever had to deal with lower back pain would you understand). It's been almost seven hours and it's still hard to straighten up....

The last two coins I dug (clad of course) were recovered only after a very definitive plan was laid out. First I had to take off the detector box (hipmount) and place it on ground, next the stem and coil, then the drop cloth, then the five minute process needed to get down on one knee, and after all of that I prayed that my digger was centered on the target. Getting back to a standing position required a 1-2-3 countdown, a loud groan and ended with strange noises coming from within. Suffice to say detecting with me now is a "real trip".

After estimating the silver value of the two dimes, and adding the face value of the clad, I didn't even have enough to buy a tube of Ben Gay. Jimmy Sierra, what's your secret?


September 20, 2013


I recently emailed an old friend from the FMDAC and we went back and forth about how things are today within the organization as well as the pastime, and I found it interesting that we both came to the same conclusion. We were not sure if there would ever be a way to unite everyone involved. It's something that many have tried to do over the years, yet we are no closer today then we were 30 years ago.

Perhaps the nature of the pastime is indicative of our failing in this area. Detectorists tend to be secretive in that they don't care to share a lot of information that might infringe on their ability to find treasure. If you find a great site, why tell anyone? Detectorists also tend to be suspicious and asking them to join any effort brings forth a lot of questions and doubts. Add in the ole "what's in it for me" routine and we are nothing more than a loosely knit group of individualists, resulting in many of the problems we face now.

Look, I know we are not big in numbers, but we are big enough to get noticed, make a fuss and affect changes IF we want to. The "want to" is the problem. It is soooo easy to say "someone else will do it" and "it doesn't affect me", but WILL someone else do it, and how long will it be till it DOES affect you? Will we ever join ranks, hang together or rally round anything? Given what I've seen over the years I very much doubt it.

I have no answers, and suspect we will continue to function as a loosely knit group of tekkies, doing our own thing, dancing to our own tune, and the hell with anyone else. JMO.



I know you are familiar with our effort to help out a young man in Florida who is battling cancer, but I want to give you an update on Ken MacIntyre, son of archaeologist Lisa MacIntyre, remind you how you can help, and how you can enter the special drawing which will take place 4 weeks from this coming Monday.

Ken just finished his third round of chemo treatments (with nine more to go), and has now lost most of his curly locks. I know he would give anything to have them back but I think he looks pretty damn handsome (bald is beautiful you know).

As a result of the chemo Ken has to be extremely careful of infection now because of his immune suppression. He's also had to stop working because it wears him out physically and because he must began limiting his exposure to germs. The good news is that he has now has a brand new detector and has decided to join our group of thugwits (if he can pry it away from Mom). He's using a White's Coinmaster GT and promises to keep us posted on his finds. I suggested he first start with his mother's lawn, and dig every signal. Arkies love that sort of thing!

Ken, the new tekkie & thugwit
A first! Lisa metal detecting
Her first find..

For continuing updates on Ken's situation cick here. Ken, keep up the good fight and good hunting (just don't tell anyone you are thugwit).


A special thank you to Butch, Anita and Jeff at American Digger magazine
for handling most of the work involved with this effort. You're the best!!




As you know I, along with the gang at American Digger magazine, have been sharing the story of Ken MacIntyre, the son of Lisa MacIntyre, archaeologist, and want to thank all of you who have donated. I am very proud of everyone involved in this pastime.

I also mentioned that we were not done helping, and over the past few days the gang at American Magazine's Relic Roundup and I have been contacting the manufacturers and magazines, asking for their help, and they, like you, have responded graciously. So mark it down folks....on the October 21st Relic Roundup Show YOU could be the owner of a:

  • White's VX3 Metal Detector, with wireless headphones, 4x6 DD coil and carry bag (total Retail Value $1,700, compliments of White's Electronics)
  • Fisher F75 LTD, Black Edition Metal Detector (Retail Value $1,449, compliments of Fisher Research Labs)
  • Minelab Exterra 705 Dual Pack (Retail Value $1,153, compliments of Minelab)
  • Treasure Commander TC1X, Uncle Si Signature Series, Metal Detector (Retail Value 279.00, compliments of Kellyco)
  • Teknetics Delta 4000 Metal Detector (Retail Value $279.00, compliments of The Gold Digger
  • A canvas print (retail value $200) compliments of Karl Wagner

We also have three one-year subscriptions to American Digger Magazine, three one-year subscriptions to Lost Treasure magazine, three one-year subscriptions to Western Eastern Treasures, plus books by Dick Stout, Greybird Publishers, K.B. Slocum and Krause Publications. Likewise prizes are continuing to come in.

You can donate as much as you like; the more you donate the more tickets you'll receive (every $5 gets you one ticket). The drawing will be held on the October 21, 2013 Relic Roundup Show. You do NOT have to be present to win. To purchase tickets, please call 770-362-8671.

You can also email greybird55@att.net or you can pay directly via Paypal to the following account: Lisamac59@yahoo.com. If you choose to pay via paypal you MUST include name, address, phone and email so that you can be contacted if you win. You will be emailed photos of your tickets/numbers.

If you wish to pay by mail send your checks or money orders made out to Lisa MacIntyre, and mail them to Greybird, Post Office Box 126, Acworth, Georgia 30101. Here again be sure to include your name, address, phone and email...If you want your tickets mailed to you be sure to enclosed a self addressed, stamped envelope. Otherwise you will be sent photos via email.



The Precious Buried Treasure

Roman Soldier's Chainmail Found

First Authenticated Pirates' Shipwreck Reveals Coin Treasure


September 19, 2013


I really enjoyed John Winter's most recent post Buying Your First Detector" and if you haven't already read it do so. Like John I've been asked numerous times, "what detector would you recommend for someone starting out" and of course the one I get asked most is "what's the best detector on the market today?" Like John I always reply, why ask me? I am no expert!


IF you want to get started in this pastime how involved do you want to get? Is this a serious interest or merely a curious one? Next, how much are you willing to invest to get started? Metal detecting is no different from any other hobby. Golf, fishing, photography....all great pastimes, and all involve an initial investment. I was once a fishing fanatic, and the more involved I got, the more money I spent. It was my passion, a way to rid myself of worries and stress, and while I hated the alarm going off at 5 AM, a couple of hours on a trout stream, with the mist rising and the sun just coming up, was pure magic and a great start to my day.

IF by chance your interest in metal detecting stems from watching one of the treasure hunting TV shows, save your money. What you see is not the real world, nor are the prices placed on the finds close to accurate, and if you think the participants make their living treasure hunting, think again. One or two might be associated with a manufacturer and be paid to use their products, but otherwise I doubt they live on their TV star salaries.

IF you are interested because you are sure that your now deceased Uncle Zeke buried gold in his backyard, rent a detector and go find it. No need to spend a lot of money. Zeke probably didn't bury it deep, if he buried it at all, and while I have no doubt that caches exist, so do rumors and tall tales.

IF you're a numismatist and want to find old coins, jump in, join the club. That's what got me started, and there's still a lot of money in the ground, despite what some are saying.

IF you want to be a beach bum, and find things in the sand and surf, go for it. Lots of fun, fresh air, and with the current price of gold at around $1,400 per ounce, you just might bring in a few extra bucks. Just don't quit your day job! The worse that can happen is you come home empty handed with visions of bikini clad young gals etched in your brain. If you decide to go this route be sure purchase a water proof, multi-frequency model detector.

IF you just want to metal detect for the fun of it, hell yeah do it, but purchase a low end detector. Most all the MAJOR manufacturers offer "turn on and go" entry level models that are well made, capable of finding neat things, and are very affordable. Do NOT however buy a detector from a large department store chain. They simply sell them, probably know nothing about how they work, and if you have a problem, you're shit out of luck. Deal with a local dealer, who will be there to demonstrate and offer assistance if and when you need it.

Research, attend a local club meeting, ask questions, rent one, try 'em out, take your time and try to make an educated decision (if there is such a thing). Also starting out with an expensive, top-of-the line metal detector does not insure success or better finds. If you don't walk over it, you won't find it, so spend your time, not your money, thinking about where to take it.

Coin Hunting, In Depth
If you do decide to get involved find a
partner to hunt with... makes the
pastime a whole lot more fun!

Before I tell you what the best metal detector on the market is, you need to tell me which automobile is better. Ford or Chevrolet and why? Then you have to tell me which company makes the best golf clubs....Calloway, Ping or Titleist? Next, which is better? Canon or Nikon? Coke or Pepsi? Coors or Budweiser? You do know where I am going with this right?

As far as I am concerned there's no such thing as the "best detector on the market today". The best detector should be the one you can afford and the one you are most comfortable with. Spending a lot of money might get you a little more depth, but it will also get you a 200 page user's manual and a sore arm to boot. I have been through the "need to have the latest and best" phase and realize that's all it is....a phase, an imagined need.

Ask any detectorist today what detector they think is best and they will probably tell you it's the one THEY are using at the moment. After all if they like it, you certainly will too. Well, er, not necessarily. I am willing to bet that same detectorist has gone through a lot of different makes and models over the years, and the one he is using now is simply the latest gal he's taken to the dance....

What do I use today? Well, not the top of the line model, not the entry level model, not the one with all the bells and whistles, and not the one that goes down fifteen feet. The metal detector I use is lightweight, comfortable, easy to understand, needs little if any in-the-field adjustments, and because of that it's the best one on the market today. So the next time somebody asks me about which detector is best, I'm gonna say "I got your best detector, right here pal!"

Now do yourself a favor and try not to make all this stuff rocket science...it isn't. It's a hobby, a pastime, nothing more. Just go do it for crissakes and stop worrying about which detector you "think" you need to have. And most important, have fun will ya?



Almost afraid to share this but we are looking at a 50% chance of rain this evening, and an 80% chance tomorrow. That is terrific news. Please send good vibes....this part of Texas needs all the rain it can get.


September 16, 2013


I think my opinions about archaeologists are pretty well known here on Stout Standards, but I recently received a couple of emails questioning my stance. So, here goes.....

It isn't because I had a bad experience with an archaeologist or because I was bad mouthed by one (used to that) or because I was banned from detecting a particular area. It's all those things and more. You see I have learned over the years that no matter what you or I do for them, they do absolutely nothing for us.

Understand, they patronize us every now and then (maybe condone is more appropriate), and "allow" us to be in their company, helping them with a project or two (without pay of course). That, however, is about it. They use us to their advantage, only allowing us to holler "signal here", but when push comes to shove they really don't care about any of us. Maybe someone reading this can respond and share with me an instance of where an archaeologist came to their defense in some manner or fashion. In my close to 40 years of detecting I have never heard of that happening.

I don't really care to share each and every one of my past dealings with archaeologists here and now. It would take up way too much time and space, bring back bad memories, irritate the hell out of me, probably turn a friend or two against me, and frankly giving any serious thought to this group of elitists is a waste of brain power. Suffice to say I have had a myriad of experiences dealing with them. All bad!

Many detectorists, for some goofy reason, dream and drool of working with an archaeologist. I guess it's the ole "look Ma, I am one of them". I say that because I remember falling into that trap too. It didn't take me long to figure out I was just being used. Come on, deep down, you and I know we will never be part of their fraternity, nor will they ever invite us. To them, we are low lifes who, in their mind, aren't able to do much more than swing a coil...

While I know that Paul Barford nor Nigel Swift (a.k.a. Wally and Harry) do not speak for the entire archaeological community, they are indicative of what I know and have learned over the years. I am 72 now and will not be changing my mind about how I feel when it comes to this group of elitists....too many years, too many bad experiences, and never an indication that anything will change.

I wish you all the best of luck in your efforts to become pseudo archaeologists. I learned a long time ago that pissing in the wind is not a good way to spend my time....



Now that we have "real" archaeologists out the way, I wanted to share this paragraph from Roger Pearce's recent post in Thoughts on Antiquity, Patristics, Putting Things Online, Freedom of Speech, Information Access, and More ......

"The article mentioned a certain Paul Barford, whom I come across occasionally and whose position I find so extreme as to be very difficult to understand. His current article is an example. In it he attacks metal-detectorists in Britain for being pleased if they find something valuable (!), with a cartoon depicting greed, and the title jeering at them as being most likely lower-class (!). But Mr Barford might care to reflect that his efforts are unlikely to eradicate greed from the human race. They might however, if successful, eradicate cooperation between metal-detectorist and archaeologist. If such a ”success” is achieved, the archaeologist called out at night might find it expedient to hire bodyguards, as elsewhere in Europe; and we may as well abandon any thought of learning anything about any find by metal detector ever. A better example of thoughtlessness and the law of unintended consequences I have yet to see".

Just one more take on the "self ordained" arkie in Warsaw.....


John Howland just emailed in his take on detectors for beach hunting, archaeological ethics (now there's an oxymoron if there ever was one) and the new Garrett ATX. Please do take the time to read his latest by clicking HERE

Thank you Bubba!


Thanks again to Eddy Current's "Metal Deteting News" Facebook site for the following. Not sure how I would keep abreast of all things treasure hunting if not for him....

Stonehenge Path offers New Clues

Rare Roman Treasure Uncovered

A Pair of Late Bronze Age Gold Bracelets Found

Argentina Ghost Town Reemerges


September 16, 2013


I can't tell you how many times I've told myself to stop giving space here to Warsaw Wally and Heritage Harry. The thought of sending anyone, even my enemies, to their blogs is just wrong, but I have to this time around. I clicked on Wally's (a.k.a. Mr. Wonderful) blog last night and almost had a shitfit from laughing so hard. Check this out...

We know how much these two morons are anti-detecting, anti-collecting and anti-US, and we know too that they were banned from the British Museum site and listed a trolls (what an honor). Now they are pissing off the locals as in the Worlingworth History Group for holding a Metal Detecting Rally.

You see it doesn't matter if the proceeds from this event are going to be shared with the History Group and the local Church Restoration Fund, they are worried that we vile tekkies will be hoiking precious artefacts and pocketing them, or at least that's their line or should I say mantra.

Anyway both Harry (see here) and Wally decided to hound the hell out of the sponsoring group, warning them of our "wicked ways" and they received this well deserved response....


"If you want to support our heritage (I assume that you do), please send a large cheque for a four figure sum (at least) payable to Suffolk Historic Churches Trust or Worlingworth Parochial Church Council. Put your money where your mouth is and stop criticising people who strive to maintain THEIR local heritage".


I laughed so hard my side was splitting. I ask you..Is there anyone left out there that they have not yet pissed off? Hard to say but I am willing to bet they will find someone. That, after all, is their apparent purpose in life.


Not a lot to report this time around. The temps are slowly dropping (only in the low 90's this week) and there's a 20 percent chance of rain each day this week. Not a lot to hang your hat on, but October is just around the corner, and it is by far the nicest month here in Texas. Hopefully this thugwit will get in a few days of detecting. Nothing like hoiking things out of the ground in the fall!


September 14, 2013


Was privileged to be the guest speaker at the Golden Triangle Explorer's Society last night, and want to publicly thank them for the great evening. Mary Penson, vice-president, and an old friend, had asked me to do the honors a few weeks ago, and I warned her I hadn't a whole lot left in this aged and worn out brain but that I would do my best to take up some of their time and ramble. I did indeed accomplish that, and afterwards had to go around an wake up everyone.

It was the first club meeting I've been to in sometime, and it was a lot of fun. Saw a lot of old, familiar faces..Lee Caldwell, Frank Lawson and Louis Murray, just to name a few. Tekkies from the good ole days.

Louis was the president of the GTES back in the mid-80's, and if I remember right, they were one of the first Texas clubs to join the FMDAC. Louis and I chatted often on the phone, spent a few dollars on postage and he's still looking great. In fact all these old friends put me to shame. Gotta get in shape and lay off the pasta.

If the name Mary Penson isn't familiar to you then you have never called Garrett Electronics. Mary retired a couple of years ago, after working there for 27 years, and was, in my opinion, "the face" of Garrett (no offense Charles). If you called with a question, a problem or to chat, you more than likely talked to Mary, and surely came away with a greater appreciation for the company and their cusomter service. She is one neat lady, and I feel privileged to know her and to have worked along side her for two years.

Frank Lawson, yours truly, Gene Humphries
and Mary Penson, club hunt, Texas, late 80's

Last night I was not only paid by being among old friends, I was also presented with a silver round, two Walking Liberty half dollars and two Mercury dimes. Not bad for an old tekkie with nothing much to say..

A couple of special thank you's go to White's Electronics for allowing me to bring the club a box of goodies for their forthcoming hunt, and to ALL the members of the Golden Triangle Explorers Society for contributing $100 to the Ken MacIntrye effort. Here's hoping some of you are winners.



Was reading the comments on a John Winter post, "The Amazing Talking Arsehole" and found this Apology post from Warsaw Wally. After getting up off the floor I was tempted to respond, but I knew his words were not sincere in any way shape or form. Apparently someone got up in Wally's face at a coin fair in Warsaw, and let him have it. He is merelty trying to keep the wolves at bay, his face intact and perhaps head off a potential lawsuit. He can spin it any way he wants. There's more to this story than he is letting on....

His last sentence says it all....

"I make no apologies for that in itself, but if there is anyone else out there who feels I have overstepped the mark when describing something they said or have done, please let me know (through the comments section, marking it 'not for publication' if you like) and I will see what I can do about it"

The "I will see what I can do about it" could have easily been replaced with "I apologize" but that would be like admitting he's human, and we all know that's not the case....



Amateur Treasure Hunter Unearths Haul of Roman Coins

Staffordshire Hoard Finder to Give Talk

Historic Gold Coin Hoard Returns

World War II Treasure Buried in Forest

There's History on the Other Side of the Coin



Just a little over five weeks left till we draw the winning tickets in the Ken MacIntrye aid effort, and we hope you will join in. To find out how you can enter click on the following photo of Ken. Thanks to everyone who has already contributed....you are already winners no matter the outcome.


September 12, 2013


Well, I tuned in last night for two more episodes of Dig Fellas, and while I'd love to say I changed my mind about the show, I have not. The show is plagued with bad scripts and poor acting, neither of which can be blamed on Bill Ladd or Howard Hewitt. They are merely pawns for the producers, and obviously saddled with what to say and how to act. That much is obvious.

The pretext or theme for this series is dumb. It has the two detectorists looking for stuff that Zorro or Billy the Kidd lost, and almost always whatever they find "probably" belonged to them. At least the viewer is left with that impression. Yes, I appreciate that they do turn up junk items as well, and while it's done for the viewing audience, stop please with the "instant" ID and history of the item right after it's dug. It implies that both Mr. Ladd and Mr. Hewitt are all knowing about all things.

Both dig fellas are always shown joined at the hip, no more than 20 feet apart, probably because they only have one camerman, but that is just a guess on my part. They were also constantly swinging their coils haphazardly. Then again scanning correctly, looking at the camera, and trying to remember your lines is surely not an easy task. I was also amazed at how Bill Ladd "chopped" at the targets with his entrenching tool (reminded me of my foxhole digging in the Army). Was he not worried about damaging whatever he was about to uncover?

When you are only working with about 20 minutes of actual film you cannot overly script a show like this, and in my opinion that's what is hurting Dig Fellas. A little more detecting, a little less talking and just maybe a realistic plot would help. Stop with the Blackbeard, Zorro, Billy the Kid and Donald Duck BS. Do a little Civil War relic hunting, prospecting or water hunting (Coin beach in Delaware, Florida's East coast). No lack of history in any of these.

Okay, I will stop with the criticism, and again state that I am not trying to belittle the participants in this series. While I don't know them personally I have heard great things about Bill Ladd and Howard Hewitt from people who do. They are avid, dedicated detectorists and I envy their enthusiasm in promoting the pastime. I just wish they were not saddled with poor storylines and scripts. Then again, who cares what the hell I have to say. My wife reminds me of that 24/7.



If you are a Facebook player be sure to check out Regton's most recent post. Regton, Ltd. is the place to shop for your treasure hunting needs in the UK, and if you need expert advice, stop in and tell owner Nigel Ingram I sent you. Then maybe I will get that $20 he owes me.

The photos in the FB post are from the recent Weekend Wanderer's Rally, and I urge you to check them out. The detecting rallies in the UK have a totally different feel to them, and if only we could replicate them here. Maybe some day....

Just another perk at the Weekend Wanderer's Rally


Not sure what to make of all this, but apparently the Detecting Diva likes her men feisty, and is turned on by Warsaw Wally. Who would have guessed? I will leave it for you to figure out, but I sure hope Allyson doesn't get too caught up in all this. Messing with the woeful Warsaw provocateur is nasty business. Then again, who knows? Metal detecting makes strange bedfellows. Be sure to read her two most recent posts HERE


September 11, 2013

Tomorrow is September 11th, and a date that America will always remember. I decided to once again share my post of previous years here. It is how Fay and I remember that day and how grateful we were and are to be Americans.


There's no question that 9/11/2001 will forever be etched in our minds. Much like the Kennedy assasanation we know exactly where we were and what we were doing when we heard the news.

Fay and I were in France, and did not learn of the attack until the next day. I know, hard to believe, but true. We got up early that morning (remember.....six hours difference in time) in Casis, a seaside town in Provence, and headed to St. Remy, where we were looking forward to the Wednesday market (9/12).

We decided to stop for lunch around noon in Orgon, a small town about ten miles east of St. Remy. After all that is what one does in France at that time of day. Everything pretty much comes to a stop from noon to 2pm. Lunch is serious business, and something to thoroughly enjoy. We did as we usually do and stopped at the first restaurant we came to, and had a fantastic meal for next to nothing. We think now that we were just about midway through our lunch when the attacks were taking place.

After leaving Orgon we headed to St. Remy, and checked in at our hotel, the "Les Antiques". The man at the desk was polite but said nothing about what had or was happening in the States. We dumped our bags, and headed to the Chateau le Baux ruins just outside town. This ancient site was perched atop a very steep hilltop where we could literally see for miles and miles. I remember the breathtaking view to this day, and how I just kept staring.

Ruins of Chateau le Baux

We were amazed that we were the only ones exploring the area, and of course later understood why.... We spent a couple of hours roaming the site, and returned to St. Remy. Since we had a big lunch we decided to save some money and picnic outside our room on the patio. We purchased some cheese, sausage, bread and of course a bottle of the local wine, and had a very relaxing meal. We were tired from all the exploring, showered and went to bed early....

The next morning, as we were getting ready to go to the market, I happened to turn on the TV, and saw videos of airplanes flying into buildings. I had no idea what this was about, and remember saying to Fay, "come here and look at this. Is this for real?".... We were stunned, and I might also add, scared. Scared because we were halfway across the world, and our family was back in the United States.

We were scheduled to fly home 8 days later, but because of the grounding of aircraft we had no idea if the flight would be there for us. We had no choice but to continue on with our trip, but this horrific event was ever present in our minds. The French were fantastic, offering lodging, hugs, and tears. Michel Tocque, my treasure hunting friend in Brittany, called us that morning and offered his home for as long as we needed. I cannot tell you how grateful we were.

Cafe in St.Remy, September 12th

The next few days were difficult in that local newspapers were non-existent and the places we were staying did not have TV's. Most of what we learned we learned from other travelers along the way. We continued on to Ile le Sorgue, Roussillon, Orange, Vaison la Romaine and back to Paris. Amazingly our flight was not cancelled or delayed, and we were even treated to first class for our return trip, thanks to American Airlines.

On touchdown at Dallas/Fort Worth airport every passenger applauded, and it was a feeling I will never forget. The customs agents were extra kind in their duties, adding "Welcome Home".....

It took us a day or two to fully grasp what had happened, watching continuous TV coverage, seeing video and photos not seen prior. What a horrendous tragedy it was. We would never be the same. I will also remember how everyone came together, and American flags were flying everywhere. We were Americans and ready to stand together against whomever was responsible for this attack.



10 Amazing Metal Detector Discoveries

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Bomb on French Beach Injures Beachgoer



Well, I received an update from my fellow thugwit, John Howland, who resides on the Southern coast of England (at least until the locals discover he's there), and guess what or who he is writing about? If you said Wally & Harry, you are right (and win absolutely nothing).

For the record Wally and his bosom buddy are not just anti-tekkie but anti-everything. Check out The Amazing Talking Arsehole here, and The Fanatical Flatulist. I also found this back and forth take on Harry, in which I also commented.


To read John Howland's latest musings on these two malodorous individuals click HERE


I just saw where my British counterpart John Winter has finally had it with this sorry SOB as well. Good job John...glad to see you lanced that boil...



I received an email today from an individual concerning my comments about the Dig Fella's TV show. It was polite and the sender was simply expressing his opinion of the show. When I tried to respond I was faced with one of those "in order to respond you must...." I went through the motions but was rebuffed and received the following response:

We're sorry. Because your original message to xxxx@earthlink.net is no longer available, we cannot process this Allowed Sender request. Your message may have expired, or the recipient may have accepted or deleted it. You may wish to resend your original message, and check your email shortly thereafter for a new Allowed Sender Request message.

If xxxx@earthlink.net chooses to allow email from your address, the message(s) that have been intercepted will be delivered immediately, and any future message(s) will be delivered without delay.

I and not familiar with Earthlink, and have no clue why you should need to jump through hoops to respond to someone who emails you, but in any case I encourage this individual to share his thoughts in the comments section of my blog.



In the past I have posted links to my blog updates on a few of the many detecting forums out there. I no longer do that.....way too many hassles and annoyances. If you wish to receive an email when I do post, click on the photo below and enter your email address where it says "Follow blog via email"...bottom of left column. Thanks....


September 9, 2013


It's Monday and just another typical day in Texas. Sunny, hot and very dry. Funny how that happens (all the time)! I will say however that I did wake up this morning, and for that I am grateful.

In case you haven't noticed football season has started and it's akin to having an orgasm for most of the folks who live in Texas. Hell I like sports too and I am an avid Yankees, Giants and Celtics fan. I just don't lose sight of reality or beat my wife when they lose, nor shoot up the neighborhood when they win.

Here, you see, on Sunday, everyone wears their Dallas Cowboys jersey, T-shirt, cap, button, or jockstrap, and churches let their flocks (a.k.a, donors) out early if there's a noon game. All just a matter of priorities here in the Lone Star State.

As for detecting? Still too hot, and I honestly cannot remember what rain looks like. Our house is feeling the effects of all this (again), and I suspect another foundation lift will be in order very soon. The doors are getting difficult to open and close, cabinet drawers are sliding out on their own, and all the pictures on the wall are tilting in one direction. This will be the fourth foundation repair, and they are not inexpensive by any means (as in thousands). What you save here by not having any state tax you pay out in foundation repairs and highway tolls (a.k.a.,taxes).

Okay, if it sounds like I am pissing and moaning, you're correct. Remember, I told you it was my job! It's what one does when they get old, and after experiencing 25 years of Texas heat it most assuredly qualifies me for inclusion in the upper echelon of "pissers and moaners"....

Lastly I am well aware that things could be worse. I could be living in Warsaw!



I know you are aware of the Ken MacIntyre effort, but I will continue to remind you anyway. It's important. If you belong to a club, do me (and Ken) a big favor. Print copies of THIS, and hand them out at your next club meeting. Encourage everyone to join our effort. They will be helping out someone in need, and just maybe they will come away with a new detector in the process. Thanks as well to everyone who has contributed.



Thanks as usual to Eddy Current's "Metal Detecting News" on Facebook for this tidbit. Apparently the new Garrett ATX is not all that new, and is similiar, if not identical to a military unit Garrett released in 2009. Sure looks so anyway...

The ReCon Pro



September 7, 2013


Most blogging programs offer the blogger a way to gauge his or her's audience by providing various statistics. In my case I can see how many people visit my site each day, what particular post they look at, how they arrived at my site (was it from another website or blog or a random search). I also know in which country they live. All interesting information and very useful when it comes to telling me your likes, your preferences, your interests, etc.. So what topic or post generates the most hits or views? Any comment at all about the metal detecting TV series!

These reality (and I use the word loosely) shows generate some chatter on the various detecting forums, but the comments never seem to match the large number of visitors I see here on Stout Standards. Why is that I wonder? Could it be that I have missed my calling and should have been a TV critic or reviewer? Hardly. My guess is that there's a lot of you who want to share your thoughts and opinions but are afraid to speak up, and looking for someone to validate your view...afraid maybe of the backlash or criticism you might receive. If true that's unfortunate. You are entitled to your opinion and it's okay get excited, be bored, happy, angry, act bat shit crazy or get pissed off. Hell it's the American way!

Why am I bringing all this up. I don't know....just thought the blog stats were interesting, and that maybe it might encourage more of you to speak up. Not just here but anywhere. If you love these TV shows great. If you hate them, that's fine too....each to his own!

For the record I received a couple of emails from people who took exception to my recent critique of "Dig Fellas". One was polite in nature. The other? Well let's just say the writer liked to mention my mother a lot.

I realize many of the things I write here are off-the-wall, sometimes overly critical, picayune and while it's hard to believe, I sometimes get it wrong. I've eaten crow many times over the years, but really don't mind. I always wash it down with a cold bottle of "Corona Extra" or a glass or two of French Red (okay I lie....I usually do both), and then go see if I can piss somebody else off...

So pour yourself a cold one, speak up and "get it off your chest". If something's eating at you, just let 'er rip...you'll feel a lot better!


Well, after a week or two of drama, Garrett finally announced their newest (and most expensive) model to the world.....the ATX (at first glance I wondered if it had an ammo compartment?). The ad says "No extreme pricing....just extreme performance" but at $2,495 I wonder what their idea of exteme is? Apparently this has become the norm for top-of-the-line detectors.

I tried to embed the video here but for some reason was unable to, but if you are interested you view it by clicking on the photo...

The ATX looks like it can do it all, and I look forward to the first reviews and comments from those who have all the shekels and fat wallets. The times, they are a changing!



Metal Detecting Group Unearths Hidden Treasures

UK Treasure Hunters Make Archaeologists See Red




September 5, 2013


Well I was thoroughly convinced that the new "Dig Fellas" show was going to be decent one. Not a great one, but one that would be fun to watch. After all "Dig Wars" was an improvement over those that came before, and it stood to reason that this one would be as good, if not better. Goes to show what I know!

First let me say that I have nothing at all against Bill Ladd or Howard Hewitt, the detectorists in this show. I suspect they wanted to do all they could to make sure the pastime was shown in a good light, but were subjected to the whims and demands of producers, film crews and most assuredly, those doing the final editing.

I also don't pretend to know anything about putting together a TV show, but for last night's "storylines" to have any chance of working the shows needed to be longer than thirty minutes. Add in commercials, lead-ins, etc, and you are lucky if you wind up with fifteen to twenty minutes of actual show. Hardly time to get your point across...if indeed they even had one.

The first episode was filmed in Bath, North Carolina, and the pretense was looking for anything left or lost by the pirate Blackbeard, who made his home base in the area years ago. Apparently Howard decided to dress the part and was wearing a "white" long sleeved shirt, and tan vest, reminiscent of that era when pirates roamed the outer banks. Didn't matter that they would be hunting in weeds up to their ass, or that the weather was soupy, the area swampy looking, or that they had to paddle a canoe some distance. It never got dirty. Call me picky but that was the first thing that told me it wasn't going to be a good show, and to make things worse, one of Howard's first lines? "Let's put the coil to the soil"....

Bill Ladd and Howard Hewitt looking for Black Beard

While Howard is scanning his detector (waving it actually) Bill is knee deep in water looking for Blackbeard's "dock"? As the show moves on they find a white stone (obviously one used for ballast on a pirate ship), a brick (maybe from Blackbeard's home), and a piece of scrap metal with a cross in it (from a treasure chest?). The idea that everything and anything found might be related to Blackbeard was just ridiculous. Watch here if you need more proof....

The second episode took place in Lincoln, New Mexico, and the goal was to find anything Billy the Kidd. Apparently an old bullet shell and horse bit they found was Billy's, and when they found a "spittoon" it had to have belonged to Billy for sure (was really disappointed when there wasn't any of Billy's spit inside). Okay, I am overstating the case, but after a few minutes it was just laughable. Why was it too that they knew they had found something great before even digging it?

Each of the above episodes ended with the items being appraised, as has been the case with all of the TV detecting shows. Apparently that will always be a given...the ole wow factor, and of course most all of the items were worth big bucks. Come on folks...please?

I really hate being this critical but Dig Fella's was a major disappointment. I might give it one more go next week to see if maybe these two episodes were a mirage but I somehow doubt they were, and hey, if you liked the shows that's fine....each to his own....

I would love to see an hour long show, and part of it dedicated to the researching of the site or storyline. Likewise please do away with or minimize the wild ass antics. It can be humorous or funny without being stupid (the “analgesic” moment is a good example). Lastly have the finds realistically valued (if they really need to be at all)....

Bill Ladd and Howard Hewitt are good guys and know their business when it comes to treasure hunting. Dig Fellas unfortunately didn't allow that to come through, and please....this is just my opinion, which, in the overall scheme of things, ain't worth spit.



Appeal to Save Ancient Treasures

Jersey Coin Hoard Tour

Field Teeming with Bronze Age Gold Rings

Treasure Hunter Warned by Police


September 2, 2013


Well on Wednesday, the newest detecting show on TV, Dig Fellows will air at 8pm Eastern Time on the Travel Channel. Bill Ladd & Howard Hewitt are not new to the pastime, and have shared their adventures on YouTube for some time. Simply type in Dig Fellas in the search area and watch.

While no one has yet seen this show or has any idea of what it will be like, the reviews are already out there. Just go to any detecting forum and you will find the pans, put downs, and verbal wishes for a quick demise. Seems everyone has become a television critic, and most of the criticisms usally come from the "I can do it better" folks. They are worried about the competition this and other detecting shows might produce. A valid criticism? Perhaps, but I prefer to look at these shows as entertainment and an introduction to the masses of what it is we do. Yes, I know there's some over-the-top silliness and overacting, but face it.... what we do can be boring as hell, and if you prefer that, there's a zillion videos out there from tekkies who love wearing cameras on their head.

Will an influx of new detectorists hurt your chances of finding that next coin or relic, or might they help save the pastime by adding their voices to our never ending battle against restrictive legislation? Remember, as our numbers grow so does our clout. Will they get out there and leave holes unfilled? Maybe, but we have had this problem for years and we will always have to police our own and educate the newcomer.

I know I am in the minority, but I think these shows are getting better with each new series, and over time we will have a treasure hunting show or two that we will enjoy and be proud of. Just hang in there, give them a chance and for crissakes stop your pissing and moaning. That's my job, and I don't like the competition!



Hoard of Roman Coins Unearthed

Ring Found in Garden Declared Treasure

Ancient Ring Found on Artic Circle



The number of prizes for the Relic Roundup drawing on October 21st continues to grow, and I want to thank Mike from K.B. Slocum Books for donating over $200 in books. We now have over $7,000 in prizes, and hope you will consider buying a few tickets for a chance to win one of them and in the process help a friend in need. I also have no doubts that this prize list will continue to grow in the coming days.

Please, if you are a member of a club, pass this information along to your members and urge them to particpate. Better yet, take up a collection, and send the money in to Anita at American Digger magazine, and she will send you your tickets (self addressed envelope please). To see a listing of all the prizes, and to find out how to participate click here.

I want to also thank Butch, Anita and Jeff at American Digger Magazine for all their hard work. They are the heart of this effort and I cannot thank them enough.

I also urge you all to stay abreast of Ken's situaton by clicking on this early photo...



I recently agreed to be a guest speaker at a local club meeting and have absolutely no clue what to talk about. I have not been detecting in a while, not up on the latest detectors, and don't want to rehash the good ole days. If my arthritis wasn't so bad Id take my guitar and play a ditty or two or tap dance. Also most of my jokes I got from Howland, and they're not fit for mixed company so that rules out stand up comedy. I thought about just leaving it up to the club members to ask me questions, but I have a feeling they would tire of me saying "I don't have a clue" or "nope".

This dilemma is not new. I have been asked numerous times to speak at meetings, and always feel unqualified. There seems to be a perception out there that I am an authority on all things detecting and treasure hunting and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, I have been at it for some time, have written about it and worked briefly for one of the manufacturers. Other than that? Just an old guy with a metal detector who enjoys looking for old coins.....

So, if you have any suggestions let me know. Otherwise I will show up, wing it, improvise, vamp some, fudge a lot and play possum. To be honest I am only doing it because I heard the food was good!


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